i-Ron 12:45 Fri Jan 8
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Coming to our game in a few seasons. Fantastic news. Apparently the average call is 11 seconds. Not bad when you consider that surrounding the ref and all that scuffling takes place right now.
I'm trying to think of some big errors that would have helped us over the years. We've seen some red cards rescinded before. Noble, Adrian, Cole...these obviously wouldn't have happened.
I can't think of any big decisions offside/ penalties or even red cards that could have gone our way this season right now but sure that I read we'd have a lot more points if the officials gave the right decision a few weeks ago. What were they?
Or even ones in the past that would have been a different outcome.
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Ronald_antly
6:23 Sat Jan 9
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AdamL 1:20 Sat Jan 9
I'd agree with that except for blowing if in doubt.
If in doubt, play on. This could be reviewed after a season or so.
I would also like to see a video review available of possible offsides. That is, if the linesman has to make a call on a borderline offside, he should allow play to continue. If the attacking team scores, gets a penalty or a corner, he should then advise the referee to "send it upstairs".
The linesman would still retain the option to flag an offside if he is certain, but this system would provide the option when he feels it to be a close call.
SORTED!
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CHICKEN RUN MANIAC
5:37 Sat Jan 9
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FEMALE REFS: LET ME RAM THEM IN THE SHITTER AND WE'LL BE TOP FOUR EVERY YEAR.
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team boaty
1:51 Sat Jan 9
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Still a massive game changer though P that time and time again is decisive in the outcome of a result
Decisions that aren`t as you put it "black and white" would benefit from being sent upstairs to check on things such as genuine intent or something that can be better viewed from a different angle and naturally just like in Cricket decisions that remain with sufficient enough doubt can then be deemed as inconclusive and the on field decision would remain.
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Ashy
1:44 Sat Jan 9
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And it would confirm if a cheating fucker deserves a yellow for diving. Thus probably taking this filthy habit out of our game!
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AdamL
1:20 Sat Jan 9
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All penalties should be confirmed by video and refs should be encouraged to whistle if in doubt. The amount of time that elapses between a whistle for a penalty and the taking of said penalty is ALWAYS more than the time it would take to verify the penalty. No brainer.
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Mr Polite
1:20 Sat Jan 9
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Milly,
But a lot of pen decisions if not most are down to opinion. If it must be used it can only be for black and white decisions
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team boaty
1:13 Sat Jan 9
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Only gonna be used for goal line decisions (already using the technology), wrongful dismissal due to mistaken identity (happens once in a blue moon) and on decisions that could result in a sending off
Penalty appeals should surely be right at the top of this list? Massive calls are made week in week out concerning these and you could even draw up an alternative league table based on the correct/incorrect decisions
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Hammer and Pickle
1:10 Sat Jan 9
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Anyone was thinking you was growing a cock. Polite.
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Mr Polite
1:06 Sat Jan 9
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Yeah I guess, I'm not precious over it, just not a fan of the idea.
Funk the off side change is stupid too.
Think there are some changes that would be good, just concerned this one won't change things for the better... Or at least cause more/different problems
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i-Ron
12:16 Sat Jan 9
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I guess there's an element of fearing change. I've liked all the rules they've done. Goal line technology, more subs, offside rules, even back passes. I've even liked badge changes. The world moves on, things change. It's funny how people get so precious.
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Mr Polite
12:02 Sat Jan 9
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Sadly it's inevitable that it'll come in - not a fan though
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i-Ron
11:55 Fri Jan 8
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FA chief executive Martin Glenn indicated the governing body would be willing to use its flagship competition for trials. It was also a leading force in the drive to introduce goal-line technology.
Glenn told a news conference: "I'm very happy for things within my direct control - the English FA's direct control - to be part of that.
"We are big supporters of the use of technology. So, what do we control? We control the FA Cup."
And they plan to use it in the F.A cup.
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Any Old Iron
11:46 Fri Jan 8
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i-Ron 10:25 Fri Jan 8
Instead of insulting me, why don't you stick to the facts. You kicked off by implying that video technology was going to be part of football in a few years, when all that is happening is that it's being trialled.
Before wetting your pants over the prospect of ruining the game for the paying spectator, just listen to what some respected foreign managers working in the PL have to say:
Everton manager Roberto Martinez:
"We should allow the referees to make their own decisions and manage the game. Clearly if they cannot see an incident that is something they need help with. Mistaken identity for example.
"Those sorts of decisions I always felt video technology could be helpful, but I wouldn't like to take the human error away from the game. Human error is part of football. It is a game of errors and how you react to these errors as a player and a referee should be exactly the same."
Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino:
"More technology? I doubt whether it is good for football. The good thing in football is that we can speak after the game a lot about whether it was a red card or yellow card or was it offside or not offside.
I think football needs to keep things important such as the human decision. I think football needs to keep its sense of the past."
Not everyone in the game is gagging for it and thinks it's the only way to go.
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whufcroe
10:31 Fri Jan 8
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"I think you are giving too much credit to a fifth ref's ability to review on the fly"
Why? My example is clear. Had someone been watching the Sky feed on a monitor they would have clearly seen both handball incidents at Villa Park.
It may not be perfect and it may not solve every situation but for me it would be happy middle ground and as far I would like to see it pushed.
As for after game reviews? How does that help the wronged team? In fact it can actually work against the team who were wronged.
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i-Ron
10:25 Fri Jan 8
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Pretty much every major news source says it, after the F.A agreed to trial it after the success in Holland you moany old cunt.
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Any Old Iron
9:19 Fri Jan 8
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Who the fuck says video technology is coming. You're talking bollocks.
Anyway, who the fuck needs it. Football is a fantastic game without it.
You only have to look at Rugby Union to see how it can fuck up a sport.
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kylay
9:18 Fri Jan 8
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I'd be much more comfortable with what Johnson proposed with post-game review and sanctions. MLS already does this for diving and such but doesn't use in-match video replay.
Truth be told, I'll be shocked if MLS isn't the first to get in-match video replay.
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kylay
9:16 Fri Jan 8
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I think you are giving too much credit to a fifth ref's ability to review on the fly. If you're going to have video replay, then it's likely going to use multiple cameras from multiple angles.
College football does exactly what you are talking about in that coaches don't challenge, but the review committee reviews every play as it happens. When they see something to review though, they stop the game every time because it takes time to analyse all of the angles and the timing of each angle. It's less practical in our game because you don't necessarily have a naturally stopping point on a play at which point, you'll effectively have to call a review timeout lest they miss another issue while reviewing.
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8:59 Fri Jan 8
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My dread is the sort of mission creep that could come about by using the technology such that we lose the continuity of the game which has remained unchanged for so long. I'm also all for the increase in retrospective judgements.
With goals we have the capability to almost instantly judge whether or not the ref got it right and having an expert ref watching the instant replays with the power to overrule would eliminate the we wuz robbed issues that regularly arrive in post match interviews. The goal line technology has removed the controversy about whether the ball was over the line so a fourth official with the power to quickly change a wrong ref goal decision should be welcomed.
The road we must not go down though is to give teams the right of appeal in game time.
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Marston Hammer
8:55 Fri Jan 8
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How many of you that are anti-technology were anti-goal line technology when it was talked about being introduced as you thought it would slow the game up too much?
Croe has it about right imo, fifth official in the stands in constant communication is the way forward.
Don't think it would slow the game much. Would be interested to see stats on how often a fifth official would want to stop the game to interfere as the ref has missed something, got something wrong. Don't think it would be that many and in lots of cases (like the schweinsteiger one) the ref has stopped play anyway so it's no EXTRA hold-up.
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Johnson
8:47 Fri Jan 8
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Personally, I don't think it should be overly used.
To start with we could increase the use of retrospective video panels, who could review each game either live or post event and then advise the ref, cite players for diving or violent play REGARDLESS whether the ref dealt with it.
As part of that process work out where then they could easily interject real time in the game, if it's deemed necessary.
Football is too quick a game to stop start all the time.
Instead if one was looking at technology, explore other things like using a Hawkeye type tech for offside, or have a live screen showing the line of last man for a video linesman to use, bit like in a video game that sort of thing.
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